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 No.1629

DEUS VULT!

 No.1631

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This place was linked on a commie board.
I hereby usurp this thread in the name of karltural marx and the immortal science of marxism-sargonism.

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>>1629
'DEUS VULT'

 No.2883

>>1804
Is that you, Enrico Dandolo?

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>>1629
But I don't want Islam to be destroyed, merely contained.

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Deus Vult

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>>2885
bad opinion

 No.2901

>>2898
Too bad.

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Deus vult!

 No.2907

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Destroy Islam and replace it with what? Christianity? Screw all of this Jewish Abrahamic shit. It's all the same thing.

 No.2915

>>2907
>>>/hell/

 No.2917

>>2915
>believing that the tribal god of the JEWS has any sway over anything that happens in the afterlife
Christcucks are ridiculous people.

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>>2917
If christianity is so jewish why is it that jews hate it so much?
Jews belive that jesus is boiling in exterment, just look at the talmud.

Most Jews today also fallow satanistic rituals instead of christianity.
by definition aithism is more jewish then christianity because one of the jew's main goals is idological subversion and demoralization, demoralization can not take place when there is christanity because christans base themselves in morals.

Pic related is you.

 No.2921

>>2919
Who the Jews hate and why matters very little. Just because they don't like Christianity doesn't make it any less a continuation of Judaism. In the end of the day, you still worship their god - YHWH, Jehovah, Elohim, whatever you wanna call him.

Now go oy vey elsewhere, goy version of Schlomo.

 No.2923

>>2907
tips horned helmet
But tell me, my fellow Aryan: why do you insist on using this Semitic-rooted construct known as the "Latin alphabet"? Free yourself from this Middle Eastern chain.

 No.2926

>>2923
>Latin alphabet
>Semitic-rooted
Now if you said the Arabic numerals you'd at least have somewhat of a point, but you didn't because you're a dumb BR monkey.

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 No.2931

>>2930
Oooooh wikipedia links, my favorite. But since we're gonna go back thousands of years, the parent script to the Phoenician one is Egyptian hieroglyphs and Egyptian being a Hamitic, not a Semitic language. So nope, Latin is still not Semitic and you're still a monkey for thinking that it is.

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>>2931
If you insist on avoiding anything that has passed through Semitic hands out of some sense of ritual purity, then the Latin alphabet is still tainted, and its Semitic influences, undeniable. Face it, Semites who died ages ago still influence the way you write.

Furthermore, ancient Egyptians themselves weren't Aryan supermen unless you follow some /pol/-tier we wuz kangz "historical" theories, so you should still reject their influence as you seem to believe only ideas and technologies rooted exclusively in Europe are worthy of European ues.

 No.2933

>>2932
Those aren't Norse circles and even so. Of course the Norse would not be capable of making structure like those below, they were built hundreds of years after Paganism died out.

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>>2932
I didn't even factor in Aryanism into why not to follow Christianity. I'm not Aryan myself, at least not in the way neonazi purists would describe one. I know what I'm most certainly not, though. I'm not a Jew, hence there is no reason for me to follow Christianity which is, in the end of the day, a type of Judaism.

 No.2962

>>2956
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems your central premise is that anything derived from or sharing traits with Judaism is a form of Jewish tribal religion.

But to think so requires a fundamental ignorance of core tenets of Christianity, namely, that the message is universal rather than nation-specific and that the ancient relationship between Jewry and God has been replaced by a New Covenant which explicitly rejects the Jews' position as a nation favored by God. Being a Christian is not tied to Jewish tribal identity, but, on the contrary, is its very opposite, for it necessarily requires rejecting the Jews' special status as a chosen people-which, ultimately, is the very heart and justification for Jewishness and Jewish identity.

It's also funny that you compare Islamic conquest to the Christianization of Europe; wherever Christianity was spread by the sword in Europe, from the Baltic to Charlemagne, it was by Europeans themselves. There's only Christianity in Europe at all because some Europeans willingly converted, so implying it was "forced" is laughable. Whatever opressive conversion that took place was commanded by Europeans upon other Europeans; no Semite imposed anything.

 No.2987

>>2962
Whether it is nation-specific or not doesn't matter. Bolshevism and globalism are not nation specific either, but they are offshoots of Jewish thought, much like Christianity and Islam. Christian /pol/-types wouldn't argue against the Jewishness of globalism or bolshevism, but would shriek if you dare call Christianity Jewish (which it is)

 No.2988

>>2987
>Whether it is nation-specific or not doesn't matter.
Yes it does. If an idea is completely universal and non-specific, then rejecting it purely and exclusively because it came from any specific intellectual or religious tradition is meaningless. As I have said before, Christianity is a denial of Jewishness and a Jew who wholeheartedly embraces it denies himself. So what makes you think that a gentile who embraces it will become "ritually tainted" with "toxic Jewishness"?

>but they are offshoots of Jewish thought

Their philosophical and intellectual basis is derived from Western thought as much, if not more, as it is from Jewish thought. Sure, you can talk about Marx's Jewishness and the role many Jews played in the creation of those ideologies, but the fact is that Marx was challenging/developing ideas within the Western intellectual tradition Western thought is not necessarily good thought -was the French Revolution a Jewish construct?Was Rousseau a kike?Where were the Jews when Enlightenment scholars spawned the worst of their ideology rather than inventing them out of thin air or deriving his autism from Jewish ideas, and the ideological development of globalism and Marxism still owes a lot to gentiles.

 No.2990

>>2988
>So what makes you think that a gentile who embraces it will become "ritually tainted" with "toxic Jewishness"?
Because it (Christianity) is derived from the religion of Judaism, carrying with it the expected characteristic tenets. It branched out of it. It is a continuation of Jewish prophecies about the Messiah of Israel (Jesus). And as per Jewish delusions of grandeur about being the master race to all non-Jews, Jesus became not just the Messiah of Israel, but the savior of all mankind, despite the fact that his message is so uniquely Jewish. Everything, from the proverbial carrot-on-a-stick way of looking at the progression of time to the ethical norms and their justifications are all uniquely and characteristically Jewish.

>Their philosophical and intellectual basis is derived from Western thought as much, if not more, as it is from Jewish thought.

Not so much. Their way of looking at time linearly and in the aforementioned carrot-on-a-stick way is the signature of Jewish thought. Much like secular progressives (cultural Marxists) and Christian conservatives alike, they view time in relation to the progression of history linearly rather than cyclically. To them there is a long line progressing from past to present, to future, acting as the path, with their unreachable goals acting as the proverbial carrot on a stick for the average schmuck to follow but never quite get.

Whether it's Marxism's promise of a worker's paradise, globalism's promise of a borderless multicultural utopia or Christianity's promise of the second coming of Christ and the judgement of all evil, you can tell that they're Jewish simply by the way they view the progression of time. If Bolshevism or globalism have inherited any European philosophical traits at all, they've inherited Christian ones, which were Jewish to begin with anyway.

 No.2993

>>2990
Teleological history and linear progression of time are not exclusively Jewish, and Marx's view of history owes more to Hegel and earlier philosophers than to his Jewish heritage. And just like cyclical history, linear history has its limits and can become a bias that damages historical research.

>And as per Jewish delusions of grandeur about being the master race to all non-Jews,

You mean, the grandeur that Christianity fundamentally denies and rejects? The grandeur that a Jew loses the moment he converts to Christianity?

>are all uniquely and characteristically Jewish.

First of all, remember that the traits ascribed to Jews by the most rabid of antisemites are the very opposite of Christian virtues; and secondly, if you hate Christianity so much, convince people that they are wrong and their modes of thought misguided instead of just pointing out any Jewishness in them. You seem to be just kvetching about how you don't want anything that comes from the Jews, as if different peoples could only possibly see greater planes of existence through exclusively local lens.

>Marxism's promise of a worker's paradise

>globalism's promise of a borderless multicultural utopia
>Christianity's promise of the second coming of Christ and the judgement of all evil,
One of these is not like the other. "My Kingdom is not of this world" is an important assertion, because it means wordly political activities won't save the world. On the other hand,
>fascism's promise of utopia through mass murder
Has a lot more in common with the first two fascists are closer to Marxism than they'd like to admit, as the three justify blood and opression by claiming that it'll bring "a better world with more social justice". Corrupt Christians can't try the same method, because no amount of genocide will bring the second coming and genocide is not exactly compatible with Christian anti-materialistic ethics.

>If Bolshevism or globalism have inherited any European philosophical traits

Oh shut up. If you think they don't have any roots in the Enlightenment, 19th century thought and Western philosophy in general you're completely ignorant. Just to give you an example: Kant himself advocated a global government.

Presumably you want to be able to claim "We wuz gud boyz, we dindu nuffin! It's just that Jewey brutally imposed these ideologies on us!"

 No.3017

>>2993
>You mean, the grandeur that Christianity fundamentally denies and rejects? The grandeur that a Jew loses the moment he converts to Christianity?
The Jew's supremacist mentality carried itself to the Christians, so instead of ethnic supremacy you've got religious supremacy, with all sorts of Christians, from St. Paul to Christian philosopher Thomas Aquinas, bashing everyone under the sun for even the most minor theological disagreement, never mind their disdain for everyone who isn't a Christian.

And it's not like the Jewish supremacist element is completely gone from Christianity. Ask any of the mainstream Protestant denominations and they'll tell you that the Jews are still YHWH's chosen despite their hostility to Christ.

>You seem to be just kvetching about how you don't want anything that comes from the Jews, as if different peoples could only possibly see greater planes of existence through exclusively local lens.

That's not it at all. My view is that if Christianity is indeed the one truth that the creator of the Universe bestowed on Mankind, it would not be so culture-specific as the Judeo-Christian mode of thought and philosophy. Its mode of thought, its parables, its teachings and its attitudes are uniquely middle eastern in general outline and Jewish in particular. Whether that Jewishness is a good or bad thing is entirely up to the opinion of the observer, but it is nonetheless present.

>One of these is not like the other. "My Kingdom is not of this world" is an important assertion, because it means wordly political activities won't save the world.

It is nonetheless the spiritual equivalent of the two secular philosophies. Or rather, the two are the secular equivalent of Christianity. We've been waiting close to 2000 years for Christ to return and it still hasn't happened. Just like we could wait for 2000 years for Marxist or Globalist goals to come into fruition and it still won't happen, because like Christianity, those two fail to grasp how the world actually works. They misunderstand (or consciously misrepresent) world history and the nature of Man.

Abrahamic philosophy starts out with an ideal which is impossible for Man to practice and then castigates Man for failing to live up to said ideal. It starts with the premise that Man is guilty at birth and must then beg for forgiveness for the sin of the first man which happened long before he was born. Much like Marxism and Globalism, Abrahamism insists that its ideal is good but that Man's nature is not good enough to practice it. So whether one advocates for the engineering of a New Socialist Man or for submission to Christ to absolve oneself of sin, one offers a solution for a problem which does not inherently exist, but a problem one has created oneself by presenting an unrealistic ideal for Man to follow.

>fascism's promise of utopia through mass murder

Fascists, or at the very least, National Socialists are indeed misguided in their mode of thinking. Plus, I don't condone the mass murder of Jews if that's what you think. I only wish them luck in their Middle Eastern homeland, where hopefully all of them will return one day and fully re-establish their ancient nation and reconstruct their temple.

>If you think they don't have any roots in the Enlightenment, 19th century thought and Western philosophy in general you're completely ignorant.

The Enlightenment came from a Christian context. Uniquely European pre-Christian philosophies were indeed influential in the Enlightenment, but were largely limited to the three major Greek ones - Socratism, Aristotelianism and Platonism. Enlightenment philosophy never really strayed from Christian metaphysics that much. For example, egalitarianism (which is more or less the key feature of Modernism) is a largely Christian concept even if modern day atheists, liberals and leftists have adopted it into their ideologies.

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Aren't pisstians just the most wonderful?
Not only do you misinterpret God's word, who said that all men are equal before him (and "thou shalt not kill"), you also assume his responsibilities for yourself. God clearly said that he alone judges people after they die, but here you are judging Muslims. Because, you know, God isn't smart enough to do that himself, he needs ''your'' help. For shame!

Pic related - your christfu's true nature, a slut like all women.

 No.3045

>>3017
"Supremacist" attitudes are in no way an exclusively Jewish phenomenon and are more or less easy to expect when one is dealing with universal truths of that kind. But many Christians have, sadly, taken them too far.

>My view is that if Christianity is indeed the one truth that the creator of the Universe bestowed on Mankind, it would not be so culture-specific as the Judeo-Christian mode of thought and philosophy.

I can understand you better now -you do have a logic. But if God chose a specific people from which to develop his universal faith, that certainly wasn't a meaningless choice -what if the traits intended for the world were installed in the early Jewish religion in the first place? There are other ways to look at it.

>It is nonetheless the spiritual equivalent of the two secular philosophies.

Not really -and its effect is the very opposite of these ideologies'.

>It starts with the premise that Man is guilty at birth

The notion of original sin is merely a recognition that human nature is inherently corrupt -even an atheist scholar can recognize this. This idea is the polar opposite of the concept held ever since the Enlightenment -and strongly present in leftit ideology- that Man is inherently good but merely corrupted by society, and as such, has an inverse effect.

>>3022
Your great-grandfather would be so proud of you.

 No.3078

>>3045
>Not really -and its effect is the very opposite of these ideologies'.
Only on the surface.

As Marxism progressivism, pure and untainted Christianity teaches hatred of your life, your family, the world, wealth etc. (Luke 14:26, 1 John 2:15, Matthew 19:21-24)

The traditional family values you think you're defending against progressivism are not Christian at all. They only became Christian in the middle modern period when the anti-caffeine and anti-alcohol Christian moralists began to appeal to family values in an attempt to stop people from engaging in what they perceived to be sinful behaviors.

Before that, Christianity's highest ideal was lifelong celibacy and the monastic lifestyle, where one never marries or has children, but isolates oneself from one's kinsfolk and embraces a life of burning hatred for oneself and the world just as Jesus had instructed, afraid to poke one's nose out of the monastery window lest God smites him.

Because that didn't sit well with most people since doing this is complete and utter insanity, the Church took children away from their parents by force as a tithe in order to turn them into Christian monks.

In truth, traditionalism was the norm worldwide long before Abrahamist philosophy emerged, whether we're talking about Judeo-Christianity or Marxism. Everyone from Western pagans to practitioners of the Chinese indigenous religions had it, otherwise their societies would not live very long. And European society survived in spite of not because of Christianity.

>The notion of original sin is merely a recognition that human nature is inherently corrupt -even an atheist scholar can recognize this


A Western atheist scholar is utterly filled top to bottom, philosophically speaking, by Abrahamic ideas whether directly or indirectly and whether or not he is conscious of them. Because it is taught from early childhood, very few people push back against Abrahamic notions of inherent guilt or evil without cause, but just accept it as fact because they see around them the effects of these very Abrahamic values—a corrupt and poorly-run society with little to no regard for orderliness or perfection, without realizing that they're caused by the very Abrahamism they've been taught to accept.

Thanks to this notion that "whatever man, everyone is a sinner", we live in what I sometimes call the Age of the Excuse, where no one takes personal responsibility for ones actions because they always have this notion that "nobody is perfect" to fall back on.

 No.3096

>>3078
>Only on the surface.
A reactionary Christian state is as far away from a dictatorship of the proletariat as any government can be.

>As Marxism progressivism, pure and untainted Christianity teaches hatred of your life, your family, the world, wealth etc. (Luke 14:26, 1 John 2:15, Matthew 19:21-24)

The better-known verses about love and the mention of hating one's own life should be enough to make one realize that what's talked about is not plain hostile emotions towards one's neighbors -that would run contrary to Christian virtue- but a mindset of deeming the material world inferior to the higher plane of existence. This beautiful notion, not even exclusively Abrahamic but also strongly present in other religions, is the very opposite of the materialism that has ruled Western thought for the last centuries. And its highest expression -monasticism- is a noble pursuit; I can't see what makes you hate it so much.

>The traditional family values you think you're defending against progressivism are not Christian at all.

The Church defended family values long before the Protestant moral crusaders you mention ever came into action. At no moment did it think that every single person could become a monk or priest, and recognized that for common people there were different but still noble paths centered on the family.

>And European society survived in spite of not because of Christianity.

That's unfair to the many positive effects Christianity has had on the West through the times. Even the very notion of a common European identity owes a lot to the Church filling the vacuum left by the Empire and expanding it inb4 "Christians brought down the Roman Empire.

>inherent guilt or evil without cause,

At least as far as the common man is concerned, Marxism teaches that these don't exist at all.

>the effects of these very Abrahamic values—a corrupt and poorly-run society with little to no regard for orderliness or perfection,

Even Israel itself is far from a "corrupt and poorly-run society".

>no one takes personal responsibility for ones actions

That's not what any church has taught for the last 2000 years.

At this point, though, I don't know where you're trying to get. You're now focused on trying to prove that Christianity is a factor of moral decadence (something I'm sure you'd find more ample space to discuss in, say, r/atheism), something secularizers have endlessly tried to prove for the last centuries.

 No.4448

>>1629
DEUS VULT
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